tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post900344551060885678..comments2024-03-28T02:14:44.757-07:00Comments on Bullfrog's BLOG: Liberty Without a CreatorBullfroghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12019620619450825193noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-16732497350377944792007-03-22T13:41:00.000-07:002007-03-22T13:41:00.000-07:00I hope all is well with you and your family...I hope all is well with you and your family...Cynthiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515523400127073358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-74334238755962859222007-02-17T22:08:00.000-08:002007-02-17T22:08:00.000-08:00Miss you!!!Miss you!!!Dionnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05013166054883351020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-44308290895483428992007-02-11T06:55:00.000-08:002007-02-11T06:55:00.000-08:00Question time!I've been working on this for a whil...Question time!<BR/><BR/>I've been working on this for a while and it finally came to me this week. I want to run it by you.<BR/><BR/>Is it fair to state that all denominations of Christianity, regardless if they "hate fags" or allow women to be pastors, must have these 3 beliefs as their core tenets?<BR/><BR/>1. Adam & Eve begat Original Sin and all of mankind is affected by it.<BR/><BR/>2. Jesus Christ is the Son of God.<BR/><BR/>3. He died so that our Original Sin may be forgiven.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Do I have this correct?<BR/><BR/>Is there more?<BR/><BR/>Most importantly, did I use "begat" correctly?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-12415462518223322072007-02-11T06:45:00.000-08:002007-02-11T06:45:00.000-08:00Sonnyredd has an excellent point and I was thinkin...Sonnyredd has an excellent point and I was thinking the same thing that Cynthia commented about, that freedom comes from a society.<BR/><BR/>I think to be fair, your point about freedom coming from a creator should actually be <I>the belief</I> in a god, not that one actually exists.Outside the Boxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02761797457652680431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-838706423110458662007-01-22T20:41:00.000-08:002007-01-22T20:41:00.000-08:00This is an interesting post. When we talk about fr...This is an interesting post. When we talk about freedom/liberty one always has to take into account that we are free to do what we please within the confines of the dominant society.<br /><br />This phrase, <b>"they are endowed by their Creator"</b> acknowledges that there is more than one Creator. What ever we believe in, by our own Creator, we have inalienable rights.Cynthiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515523400127073358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-78455746735402924572007-01-22T20:36:00.000-08:002007-01-22T20:36:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Cynthiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515523400127073358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-60900820339169312602007-01-22T16:38:00.000-08:002007-01-22T16:38:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Cynthiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515523400127073358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-91379327161731137032007-01-16T13:15:00.000-08:002007-01-16T13:15:00.000-08:00"Sonny, thanks for chiming in. I would be interest..."Sonny, thanks for chiming in. I would be interested to know what you think what liberty would be without morality?"<br /><br />Europe. (I kid, I kid!)<br /><br />Look, morality is always a subjective term. But if I understand your question, what freedom is there without conscience?<br /><br />I hate to answer that with another question, but is the religious man who does good knowing he will gain enterence into heavan being truly religious, or is he being selfish?<br /><br />How about the pacifist who will let others go to war to defend him and his family, yet he will refuse citing religious grounds (Amish come to mind), are they morally right?<br /> <br />My point, is that none of us are truly moral nor are we truly free.<br /><br />Yet we may have moral conduct because we refrain from behaviors that offend the society at large, while we remain free of despotic rule. Moral and free?<br /><br />Neither.Sonnyreddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14673749999682418794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-34041141364369487142007-01-08T09:20:00.000-08:002007-01-08T09:20:00.000-08:00LMC: Good point, there is a famous quote that says...LMC: Good point, there is a famous quote that says,<br /><br />"Those that believe what suits them only believe themselves" (paraphrase).<br /><br />You are probably going to ask me who said it and I forgot! I'll have to dig around and see if I can find it. Google to the rescue!<br /><br />Sonny, thanks for chiming in. I would be interested to know what you think what liberty would be without morality?Bullfroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12019620619450825193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-68348924014805959402007-01-06T10:05:00.000-08:002007-01-06T10:05:00.000-08:00Thoughtful post. I don't agree with its premise, ...Thoughtful post. I don't agree with its premise, but I appreciate it nonetheless.<br /><br />Liberty's definition is actually found in definition 1, at least in the American sense. It is freedom from the burden of despotic control. <br /><br />But I get you, and I respect your pov.Sonnyreddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14673749999682418794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-12123717358862772652007-01-05T15:08:00.000-08:002007-01-05T15:08:00.000-08:00Wow!!! Wonderful post, I may have to link to this...Wow!!! Wonderful post, I may have to link to this. Extremely well said and I wholeheartedly agree.<br /><br />It kind of goes along with objective & subjective truth. The worldview of secularists is that all truth is subjective and that there is no objective truth. It sounds good to some until a simple test proves how fallible it is. In Apologetics class at Moody our professor had us test it out. As an employer I've promised to pay you $50 for your wages but when you're done I decide that I really only want to pay you a dime. Who is going to stop me since nothing is really wrong, it is all subjective. <br /><br />You make the same points with freedom, we aren't free to hurt others. An excellent point!!Dionnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05013166054883351020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-49489228381596709802007-01-04T16:15:00.000-08:002007-01-04T16:15:00.000-08:00That was one of the points I was hoping to make wi...That was one of the points I was hoping to make with this post. Liberty comes with a cost and with responsibility.Bullfroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12019620619450825193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20044969.post-23588352196918909752007-01-04T15:49:00.000-08:002007-01-04T15:49:00.000-08:00Great post! Too bad how many people take liberty f...Great post! Too bad how many people take liberty for granted or have some false sense of privilege when it comes to freedom.Mr. Grey Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08196453916455757238noreply@blogger.com